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>>> TiVo on WPA-enabled 802.11g network <<<

 
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TiVo on WPA-enabled 802.11g network

My home wireless network utilizes WPA security. In order to allow TiVo to connect with my Linksys WUSB11 wireless adapter, I have to temporarily change the network to operate with the far less secure WEP security settings. Is there any way to use TiVo with WPA security, or to run my network so that both WPA and WEP devices can work simultaneously?

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Matt

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Tivo currently can't use WPA security. But who really cares. Your biggest network risk is the wire coming into your house.

The WPA spec allows for WEP to be used at the same time, but I have not heard of an AP that allows this. This doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I've used the WEP cracking software and it certainly works. It still takes time and effort to crack WEP.

I think for 99.9% of home users, the risk just isn't there. Logically, only an in place neighbor could take the time to crack your WEP network. Not a drive by. If you have MAC filtering enabled, usually the worst thing is a neighbor could read all of your wireless traffic.

So for me, that means my neighbor then needs to additionally crack my SSL traffic for Credit Card transactions or decrypt my 3DES encrypted VPN traffic with work. All other traffic is pretty much junk. Frankly, I don't think my neighbors give a crap, and can buy their own stuff with their own credit cards.

So, if you are anal, set up a separate wireless network for your tivo. Cost: $30 for a B network AP on sale. You probably already have your neighbors over to see your Tivo. They don't care about its network traffic.

So, if you are only moderately anal, change your WEP key regularly.

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Thank you for the helpful information. I think I may very well purchase a cheap 802.11b AP, as I anticipate having the same problem with other devices in my network.

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Matt

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Until 802.11g wireless bridge products upgrade their firmware to support WPA, you are stuck with WEP.

You can still increase the security of WEP by several orders of magnitude by performing some simple steps:
1) Disable ssid broadcast
2) Use Open not Shared Authentication
3) Enable MAC filtering

These steps prevent the majority of simple attacks.

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There is another option. You can get a wired USB network adaptor for the TiVo and then use either a wireless 802.11g bridge or one of the 802.11g gaming devices. If your router supports WDS bridging you can also use a wireless extender that supports WDS bridging.

The added benefit is that your transfer speeds will increase to about 11 mbps (from around 4-5 mbps with the WUSB11) and you can also do redo guided setup without a phone line.


Here's an example of each of the devices I described above:

1. Wireless bridge - Linksys WET54G
2. Wireless gaming device - Linksys WGA54G
3. Wireless extender that supports WDS - Linksys WAP54G, but only when used with a Linksys WRT54G with the latest firmware.

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Unfortunately, none of these bridges you mention support WPA at this point.

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WET54G latest firmware


Version 2.08, March 26, 2004
- Adds Wi-Fi Protected Access(TM) support

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