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TiVolutionary is offline Old Post 02-27-2002 01:42 AM
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Cool

I'm sorry, but I won't disclose planned features.

The promotion is for 30 days, I think.

Only customers who were on Monthly as of yesterday are eligable for the $200 Product Lifetime promotion.

-RB

Edit: It is 30 days. And it's $199, not $200.

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So, the break-even point for the $200 lifetime is around 15 months under the new structure. Looks like an easy decision to me...

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quote:
Originally posted by TiVolutionary

Only customers who were on Monthly as of yesterday are eligable for the $200 Product Lifetime promotion.

-RB



And obviously this deal is for standalone customers only?

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Is the lifetime subscription for NEW customers who haven't yet subscribed still $249?

Darn I knew I should have signed up for monthly already, could have saved $40

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quote:
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So, the break-even point for the $200 lifetime is around 15 months under the new structure. Looks like an easy decision to me...


15.45 to be exact.

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Joe,

Why would this promotion be only for standalone? I'm currently $9.95/Month for my DirecTivo service -- I assume that the increase is for _all_ monthly subscribers.

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Ouch! That's going to cost me another $9 a month

Any chance of getting a discount for those of us with multiple units? Perhaps $12.95 for the first unit and $8.95 for each additional unit? That would help take out some of the sting.

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quote:
Originally posted by charles_d
Joe,

Why would this promotion be only for standalone? I'm currently $9.95/Month for my DirecTivo service -- I assume that the increase is for _all_ monthly subscribers.



Read the first post it's for SA subs only.. But if the 200 bucks to upgrade to lifetime deal was offered to Dtivo users. I might think about it..

RB, any chance you could let us know how many monthly subs are out there? Just wondering..

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quote:
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Joe,

Why would this promotion be only for standalone? I'm currently $9.95/Month for my DirecTivo service -- I assume that the increase is for _all_ monthly subscribers.



You're not keeping up, Charles. RB has posted (and edited his original post) to mention that the price increase is only for Standalone customers.

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quote:
Originally posted by charles_d
So, the break-even point for the $200 lifetime is around 15 months under the new structure. Looks like an easy decision to me...


Not when you've already had your TiVo for 2 years at $9.95 a month! Or if you have multiple units that are going to cost you $200 a piece!

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Read the post post it's for SA subs only.. But if the 200 bucks to upgrade to lifetime deal was offered to Dtivo users. I might think about it..


Me too... But are we to expect Direct TV to know about this? So that we could call them and tell them to switch us?

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quote:
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But if the 200 bucks to upgrade to lifetime deal was offered to Dtivo users. I might think about it..



I was pulling out my wallet to get to my CC just as RB corrected his post. I was definitely going to take advantage of it.

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Thumbs down

Sigh.

A 30% price increase for SAs, which were already $10 a month? UUNet POP fees (especially since the 800 number is now gone.) and the program guide data can't possibly cost that much. In addition, I strongly doubt that any new features that don't carry further monthly fees will come out for Series 1 units. All of the demoed services and services TiVo has asked about (in various surveys that have been discussed here) all carried additional monthly fees. I don't see how a 30% price increase for the exact same service is warranted, when TiVo's costs are going down.

In addition, this seems to be doing the opposite of what TiVo wants--pushing people onto Product Lifetime. After 20 months, TiVo stops making money on Product Lifetime subscriptions. Keep the price of monthly down and have TiVo keep making money every month.

EDIT: I just thought of another reason why I'm ticked that TiVo is raising SA prices. TiVo Takes is gone. Showcases and TiVolution magazine, frankly, pretty much suck now. What are we paying for? $13 a month for the TiVo service, now that it is getting quite pared down to just a program guide and some of the advertised functions.

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well...

quote:
Originally posted by charles_d
So, the break-even point for the $200 lifetime is around 15 months under the new structure. Looks like an easy decision to me...


On the bright side, this pretty much makes a decision for me that I was pushing myself towards anyway. I'll be going 'lifetime'.

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Can I help RB,

This has nothing to do with DirectV Combo units.
This has nothing to do with current Lifetime subs.
This has nothing to do with any future Subs.

This only effects current monthy stand alone subs.

Hows that.

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Me too... But are we to expect Direct TV to know about this? So that we could call them and tell them to switch us?



I don't think that was in the initial plan, but I'll add my name in as one who would switch. If TiVo really does need funds (which, clearly they do) allowing everyone to switch to lifetime for $200 would be an easy way to generate some serious cash in a hurry.

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Any information on pricing levels for those with the grandfathered
annual subscriptions? I've been thinking about going lifetime anyways.

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quote:
You're not keeping up, Charles. RB has posted (and edited his original post) to mention that the price increase is only for Standalone customers.


Jeez, guess I gotta learn to type faster. First this thread spills over to two pages in no time flat and then the lead post gets changed...


If the $200 offer is made available to DTivo users, I'll definitely take advantage of it...

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RB -

Realizing that the "cards in the mail" will have more info....

To get the special rate, will you have to do this via a phone call or will the "Manage My Account" option to change to a Lifetime subscription work as well ?

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This does lead back to the question about shared information between TiVo's. Those of us with multiple TiVo's have long suggested that, if we could network them, there'd only be a need for one to call in, instead of (in my case) all four. That one could feed the info to the others. Ideally, in that situation, there'd be a reduced fee for the other units.

Not that I expect that to be part of this discussion, but I'd like to suggest it for future consideration, especially as networking seems more likely for the Series 2s.

2 of mine are already on Lifetime, so I'm only hit twice. I had been thinking of getting a Series 2 and moving one of my monthly units to a family member who needs a TiVo but hasn't been able to convince his wife. Giving them the gift of a $12.95 monthly bill may make that a less pleasant gift. I'll have to think on it some more.

I'm guessing the timing is set to coincide with Tax Refunds? Get people to migrate to lifetime. I probably would but my Jaguars Season Tickets are also due. Decisions, decisions.

What I find odd is that this makes Lifetime more attractive (payoff is sooner). Wasn't there something in one of the conference calls about changing the ratio of lifetime/monthly customers to increase the percentage of monthlies? This seems to go against that, unless they plan to increase the cost of Lifetime after the 30-day window?

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