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Darin is offline Old Post 06-15-2002 01:59 AM
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People like him are why the masses oppose drug use. If people were smarter about their use then many of the negative steroetypes about drug users would be untrue.

The masses aren't aware of the people who are smarter about their drug use. There's no reason for them to notice them. The only ones who stand out are those who, like this man, have some serious problems, and make some very bad decisions. Their lack of responsibility and reasonable decisions in their drug use, as in other aspects of their lives, worsens the effect, and they start a downward spiral. In the end, the drugs get blamed for their woes, and that blame is what the masses see.

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First of all these are human beings, not animals, and second of all this is a lot more up close and personal. Are you telling me that if you were filming a child for a documentary and someone came up and attacked or mugged that child that you would go right on filming?



Do you WATCH the news these days? Or any of those shows on Fox?

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The masses aren't aware of the people who are smarter about their drug use. There's no reason for them to notice them. The only ones who stand out are those who, like this man, have some serious problems, and make some very bad decisions. Their lack of responsibility and reasonable decisions in their drug use, as in other aspects of their lives, worsens the effect, and they start a downward spiral. In the end, the drugs get blamed for their woes, and that blame is what the masses see.




I couldn't agree with you more. Its the extreme cases that call attention. I blame that guys problems on his in ability to handle a drug, not the drug alone. Its just like alcohol, some people can handle it and some people become dependant on it. Its the same principle, but for some reason society says alcohol is okay and drugs are not. (some drugs I think are safer then alcohol, some are not and should be illegal)

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I couldn't agree with you more. Its the extreme cases that call attention. I blame that guys problems on his in ability to handle a drug, not the drug alone. Its just like alcohol, some people can handle it and some people become dependant on it. Its the same principle, but for some reason society says alcohol is okay and drugs are not. (some drugs I think are safer then alcohol, some are not and should be illegal)




This isn't the best analogy to make. While abusing alcohol is certainly detrimental to your health, a glass of wine a day is actually good for you. Any amount of ecstasy is bad for you.

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Do you WATCH the news these days? Or any of those shows on Fox?



I assume you mean those "reality" shows on Fox where they show video that someone accidentally caught on tape. This is a case of someone filming a subject with the advance knowledge of what is going to happen.

From the website:

An unsettling, cautionary documentary, Small Town Ecstasy is the unexpected result of the filmmakers' search for a subject who would demonstrate the pervasive effect of "club drugs" on young people.

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This isn't the best analogy to make. While abusing alcohol is certainly detrimental to your health, a glass of wine a day is actually good for you. Any amount of ecstasy is bad for you.



I meant in terms of abuse, either takes a certain amount of control. Ex is certainly bad for you. But other drugs such as pot are not nearly as destructive as alcohol. My point is more that either drugs or alcohol can be abused in the same way.

Who actually drinks a glass of wine a day solely for health anyways? People just like to say that "its actually good for you" ....I say it too

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The guys at National Geographic could step in and save the gazelle from the tiger too.....

This triggered a spark of memory from a while back regarding journalists and the Vietnam war.

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Some years ago, there was a PBS television program that brought prominent citizens together to be intellectually prodded by a host who threw hypothetical situations at them. In one of these shows, the host asked TV anchor Peter Jennings what he would do if, while on patrol with a guerrilla force fighting U.S. troops, he learned that the guerrillas were going to ambush the Americans.

Jennings, visibly pained by such a prospect, said he wouldn’t be able to go on with the guerrillas; he would flee and try to alert the Americans. The host put the same question to Mike Wallace, known for his tough journalistic tactics. Wallace didn’t hesitate. He was a journalist first, he said, there to cover the news however it was made.

I don’t think Wallace made many friends among Americans viewing that program. But he made his case so forcefully that it swayed Jennings. On reflection, the anchor said, he thought he would follow Wallace’s lead after all.


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This isn't the best analogy to make. While abusing alcohol is certainly detrimental to your health, a glass of wine a day is actually good for you. Any amount of ecstasy is bad for you.



I meant in terms of abuse, either takes a certain amount of control. Ex is certainly bad for you. But other drugs such as pot are not nearly as destructive as alcohol. My point is more that either drugs or alcohol can be abused in the same way.

Who actually drinks a glass of wine a day solely for health anyways? People just like to say that "its actually good for you" ....I say it too

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Man, I need to lay off the X, I'm getting serious deja vu.

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First of all these are human beings, not animals, and second of all this is a lot more up close and personal. Are you telling me that if you were filming a child for a documentary and someone came up and attacked or mugged that child that you would go right on filming?



I guess that would depend...if I was doing a documentary about kids that mugged people and then that same kid got mugged him/herself, then I probably wouldn't stop it.

I didn't mean to sound as harsh as my first post, but I just wanted to throw it out their for discussion.

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