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jsnell is offline Old Post 01-08-2003 10:05 AM
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Aww, let's not scare emory out of the thread.

And regardless of what it was called, it started in California. By the way, did you know that AOL got its start providing services for Apple?



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Re: Re: Rendevous for PC already exists

quote:
Originally posted by Avian
You're confusing Rendezvous with 802.11b.


Yes he was. Apple did pioneer 802.11b though. If I may wave the family flag a little harder.

And as for the next post; I couldn't possibly be scared away from a thread like this without moderator intervention.

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Another Mac/Tivo home -- 3 Macs (currently) and 3 DirecTivos. Of course, none are series 2... but I was very pleased at the announcement.

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Yet another Mac/TiVo user.

Anyone know what the PC/Mac breakdown of TiVo users is? It's a stat that TiVo's got to have lying around somewhere in their marketing dept.

Anyways, glad to see TiVo supporting Rendezvous. I've been following the digital audio receiver market for awhile and this new service from TiVo could meet my needs exactly (essentially, SliMP3 + plus bigger display).

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Apple's Rendezvous code is available as open source. It includes software to support UNIX, Linux, and Windows-based systems and devices. I wouldn't be surprised if TiVo will announce Rendezvous software for other platforms, or at least identify a supported third party source, when they make their announcement.

The great thing about this is that it means that TiVo will be using network storage for MP3's and photos using an open standard. All they have to do to enable network video storage is put some kind of DRM into the mix.

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quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Apples & TiVo's... now there's a niche market within a niche market. I'm sure there's 17 people out there who're happier now, though.


At leat 18 And I am one of them!

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quote:
Originally posted by emory
way to check those facts.

it wasn't called America Online in California.

And AOL still owns the original offices they had in Vienna. Love@AOL was there two years ago when I worked at AOL in the hey-day where we all drove fancy cars and wiped our butts with jacksons.




Was it not Q-Link? and Just a side note the Vienna office is now closed as is the Herndon office. Everything in Nothern VA but Reston and Manasass has been moved to Dulles now.

<grin> and watch what you say about AOL.. Some of use like them.

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quote:
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How about TiVos using Rendezvous to discover each other?

Lots of possibilities there, like forming one SuperTiVo that appears like a single TiVo with multiple tuners and the total capacity of each box added together. That'd be sweet.



Now that would get me off my butt to upgrade and buy a couple new Tivos.

Unfortunately, that would also mean running cat-5 to each Tivo so they could share files. No way could you share them over wifi with any reasonable expectation of speed. Or could you?

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quote:
Originally posted by jsnell
Aww, let's not scare emory out of the thread.

And regardless of what it was called, it started in California. By the way, did you know that AOL got its start providing services for Apple?



-jason, who is running Mac OS X, has a DirectTiVo running TiVoWeb...



Mmm... not exactly. They got their start providing services for Commodore 64 users. Remember QuantumLink? That was AOL before AOL was AOL. AOL started as Quantum Computer Services, running the QuantumLink network. (I was on way back then on my C64 and my 300 baud modem. )

Apple then hired them to replace the AppleLink network (that had been run by General Electric) - Quantum's network was known as AppleLink Personal Edition. They ran AppleLink Personal Edition for a few months, before deciding to end the relationship with Apple. Once this happened, Quantum Computer Services renamed the AppleLink Personal Edition "America OnLine."

Now that I'm THOROUGHLY off topic, I'll end.

Oh - and by the way, chalk up another TiVo and Apple user... though unfortunately I have a series 1, so I can't take advantage of this latest announcement.

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Me too: TiVo, and iMac, iBook running Safari!

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quote:
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At leat 18 And I am one of them!


OK, it's what, 19 users then, not 17. And I'm being nice to those multi-Mac households in letting them count each machine as a separate user.

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ZeroConf will get bigger, but it's still quite limited in scope as of right now. Still, any support is good support, and hacking up a working ZeroConf/Rendezvous compatible setup with a Tivo using PC's instead of Crapples shouldn't be too difficult. Probably will be as easy as running a program to give IP config info to the Tivo.

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Let's see....

2 TiVo's
2 PC's
3 Mac's (numbers 13, 14, and 15 we've owned)

Every one does their share of work for two people here.

Oh, almost forgot.....

0 Replays
0 Ultimate TV's

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quote:
Originally posted by gregpr
Now that would get me off my butt to upgrade and buy a couple new Tivos.

Unfortunately, that would also mean running cat-5 to each Tivo so they could share files. No way could you share them over wifi with any reasonable expectation of speed. Or could you?



Well!

WiFi is an 11Mbit technology.

USB isn't exactly blazing fast. I stream video and audio over WiFi all the time in my house... an OS X file server holds all my video/movies/photos/applications/home directories in my house.

heck, i do network login over WiFi. (for windows users: think logging into an NT/2K domain with roaming profile where a server hosts your junk)

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quote:
Originally posted by dswallow
Apples & TiVo's... now there's a niche market within a niche market. I'm sure there's 17 people out there who're happier now, though.


COOL! I'm one of 19

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quote:
Originally posted by Otto
ZeroConf will get bigger, but it's still quite limited in scope as of right now. Still, any support is good support, and hacking up a working ZeroConf/Rendezvous compatible setup with a Tivo using PC's instead of Crapples shouldn't be too difficult. Probably will be as easy as running a program to give IP config info to the Tivo.


HAH HAHHAHAHAHAH WOW OTTO THAT CRAPPLES COMMENT WAS FUNNY. OH CRAP. HAHAHAHAAH. WOW. CRAPPLE. BECAUSE APPLE's ARE CRAP. AHAHAHAHAH WOW HAH HAH.

hah.

ha.

I don't see how zeroconf is limited in scope.

What exactly is limited about a discovery protocol for TCP/IP?

Have you checked it out yet?

HP has rendezvous/zeroconf firmware for its network printers already. You go to print a document, and it tells you what printers you have available to you and which one is closest to you.

What's wrong with that?

You're in a conference room with no formal network, but an ad-hoc 802.11b OR 802.11g! network is formed automatically so you can share files with a coworker.

Stewart is a truly brilliant guy - I can't think of anyone I'd rather have writing this spec out and implementing it. The iTunes sharing alone is a killer app for rendezvous; add TiVo to the mix and it gets even more impressive.

For the uneducated:

The forthcoming iTunes4 with Rendezvous allows all Macs on a network (wired + wireless) to advertise and discover MP3 playlists on all machines and play them over the network.

No copying files, no manual labor. Just, "Oh, Bill is here. He loves Britney Spears. There is is Brittney Spears collection, *click*, oh wait. I hate Brittney Spears."

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quote:
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COOL! I'm one of 19


The server admins know how many Mac OS/Windows/Linux/Solaris/IRIX users we have here.

Anyone care to

grep "Macintosh*;" access_log | uniq | wc -l
grep "Windows*;" access_log | uniq | wc -l

Or use something like access-watch to check?

I bet it's at least half of the Windows users. For unique visitors.

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quote:
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The server admins know how many Mac OS/Windows/Linux/Solaris/IRIX users we have here.


That doesnt take into consideration that some of us [ME] are forced to use PCs at work.

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What would be the alternative? UPnP? No, thanks.

TiVo did good, here

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