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06-28-2004 02:39 AM

MikeekiM
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Where Should I put my new DVD-RW Drive ($49.99)?

I just picked up an I/O Magic DVD Dual Format DVD writer!!! Yipee...

The best part is that I got if for $49.99 after rebate at Staples this morning...

Now my question: Which drive do I yank from my system? The DVD-ROM or the CD Writer?

I am just not sure which is better... to have two writer drives, or to have two drives (a reader and a writer) that can handle both CD and DVD formats...

I am leaning towards yanking the CDRW drive and keeping the DVD Rom...

Opinions please! Thanks!

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06-28-2004 02:43 AM

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The DVD-ROM drive is now useless. There's no real reason for it.

At least with the CDRW drive you can write CDs if you didn't want to use your DVD drive to do it. I don't know about the drive you got, but the CDRW drives on my machines burn CDs faster than my DVD burner does. So I'll usually burn all my CDs in the CDRW drives.

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06-28-2004 02:47 AM

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Ah... Hmmm...

Okay, my reasoning was that I thought the DVD-ROM would have a faster read speed, and it would also allow me to read a DVD on one drive, while writing to the other (without swapping during a DVD backup/copy)...

I am actually not sure of the specs of my DVD-ROM though...

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06-28-2004 03:03 AM

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Put it in the mailbox to my address

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06-28-2004 03:06 AM

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quote:
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Put it in the mailbox to my address

BTW, the Staples sale is still on...but it is an 'in-store' only sale... I think it goes on for a week...or while supplies last... $30.00 rebate makes it $49.99 in the end...

In addition to my first question, now that I have a dual format, I am trying to figure out which format to start out with... The +/- thing is pretty darn confusing...I don't need that many options in my life...

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06-28-2004 03:16 AM

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Hate to disagree with Bryan, but a DVD-RW makes an OK CD burner. Keep the DVD-ROM so that you can rip & burn DVDs using any of a number of systems (DVDShrink, etc.).

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06-28-2004 03:31 AM

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I use +R media. I have that same drive. Works nicely.
Amazong has some good deals going on, I just ordered these.
Ridata DVD+R 8x 50-pack Spindle

Ridata DVD+RW 4x 25-pack Spindle

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06-28-2004 03:47 AM

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Ridatas appear to be pretty reliable. True Riteks are the best, but I've had good luck with cheap Ridata and Verbatims.

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06-28-2004 06:36 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Francesco
Hate to disagree with Bryan, but a DVD-RW makes an OK CD burner. Keep the DVD-ROM so that you can rip & burn DVDs using any of a number of systems (DVDShrink, etc.).

I'm not saying it doesn't make an ok CD burner, just that my CDRW drives burn CDs much faster than my DVD burner can. His burner might burn them just as fast.

As for having two drives to make copies from, I've always used DVDShrink and copied the material to the HD, then the DVD so I don't know anything about doing it straight from drive to drive.

To me the determining factor would be the CD burn speed. If the CDRW isn't faster than the DVD burner then it wouldn't matter to me which stayed in.

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06-28-2004 06:44 AM

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Good points. I tend to rip with a fast DVD-ROM (Pioneer A-500) and burn with a pretty fast DVD-RW (Pioneer DVR-105). Nero makes it almost seamless.

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06-28-2004 06:53 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Bryanmc
I'm not saying it doesn't make an ok CD burner, just that my CDRW drives burn CDs much faster than my DVD burner can. His burner might burn them just as fast.

As for having two drives to make copies from, I've always used DVDShrink and copied the material to the HD, then the DVD so I don't know anything about doing it straight from drive to drive.

To me the determining factor would be the CD burn speed. If the CDRW isn't faster than the DVD burner then it wouldn't matter to me which stayed in.

I agree with Francesco for using 2 drives with dvdshrink, etc. Much easier. Even if you use 2 drives with dvdshrink, the encoding is still written to the hard drive. 2 drives just makes it easier because you don't have to swap out originals for blanks. Since it's on the hard drive, you can make multiple copies with nero, or the like, from the hard drive.

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06-28-2004 08:09 AM

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Thanks for the opinions!!!

So some more details... here are the speeds for the I/O Magic DVD-Writer drive (from the back of the box):

Write Speeds:
* DVD+R = 8X
* DVD-R = 4X
* DVD+RW = 4X
* DVD-RW = 2X
* CD-R = 40X
* CD-RW = 24X

Read Speeds:
* CD-ROM = 40X
* DVD-ROM = 12X

Not sure of the DVD-ROM or CDRW speeds of the drives installed in my computer at the moment... I will need to go to the HP site and find out if I can get the specs... It is an HP Pavilion 751n...

EDIT: From HP's website...here is what the speed are for the current drives...

DVD drive - 16x
CD-RW drive - 24x10x40

Thanks all!!!

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06-28-2004 08:29 AM

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Does that drive had a riplock on it? My old Sony DRU500 was riplocked to 2X and my NEC 2500A is riplocked at 4X (I don't really like to install non-OEM riplock-less firmware) so I keep my DVD-ROM around because it can rip at up to 10X.

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06-28-2004 08:34 AM

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quote:
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Does that drive had a riplock on it? My old Sony DRU500 was riplocked to 2X and my NEC 2500A is riplocked at 4X (I don't really like to install non-OEM riplock-less firmware) so I keep my DVD-ROM around because it can rip at up to 10X.

A riplock? That stinks... Didn't know something like that existed...

How do I find out? I can't imagine it is something that would be on the side of the box in the published specs...or would it?

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06-28-2004 08:53 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by MikeekiM
A riplock? That stinks... Didn't know something like that existed...

How do I find out? I can't imagine it is something that would be on the side of the box in the published specs...or would it?

Not that I know of. You just have to try it, I suppose. Use DVD Decrypter to rip a disc and it should let you know what the max rip rate is.

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06-28-2004 08:55 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Bryanmc
I'm not saying it doesn't make an ok CD burner, just that my CDRW drives burn CDs much faster than my DVD burner can. His burner might burn them just as fast.

Older DVD-RW and +RW drives were significantly slower in CD writing speed than their CD-RW counterparts from that generation. My pioneer DVD-RW drive can only write cd's at 8x.

In fact, when +RW drives first hit the market, they were touted as having a higher write speed for CD's as one of their advantages, but IIRC, they only burned at 24x while CD-RW drives were hitting 40x.

Things have changed a bit now

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06-28-2004 08:55 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Francesco
Ridatas appear to be pretty reliable. True Riteks are the best, but I've had good luck with cheap Ridata and Verbatims.

Aren't RiData's made by Ritek? The disc ID seems to be exactly the same for RiData as for Ritek.

http://www.ritekusa.com/abpress_news.asp?news=3

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06-28-2004 09:19 AM

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Two More Questions:

1. Roxio Media Creator 6 - The drive came with Roxio Media Creater 6 (basic edition is my assumption)... I have Roxio's CD Creator Deluxe (version 5 I think), which includes stuff that aren't included in the basic edition...

If I install the software that came with the DVD writer, will it clobber my old version... can both co-exist?

2. Analog Audio Cable to Motherboard - I just installed the drive and neither of my previous drives had an analog audio cable attached and connected to the motherboard...

I took the analog cable and connected it to the motherboard... But I don't know what, if any, benefits I will get from doing this... Is this a good thing, or should have just left well enough alone and not connect it... How do I know it is even doing anything at all?

Thanks!

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06-28-2004 12:24 PM

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That is a great price! I remember when DVDRW was around $300 bucks.

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06-28-2004 12:38 PM

MikeekiM
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quote:
Originally posted by iKwak
That is a great price! I remember when DVDRW was around $300 bucks.

The price is good until July 10th at Staples... $49.94 after rebate to be exact... There is a $50 instant savings and $30 mail in rebate...

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