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03-27-2003 08:06 PM

stevel
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The Philips DVDR985 is a standalone DVD video recorder, not a PC drive. It supports recording on DVD+RW and DVD+R discs, and since it records in "real-time", the speed doesn't matter. I would recommend using DVD+RW discs in the 985 - I see little point to using +R discs there. There is currently only one "speed" of +RW discs, 2.4X, I think.

As for copying discs - I have made several DVD+R copies of a DVD+RW disc I initially recorded on the 985. The DRU-500A's bundled software includes a disc copy feature that uses a disk file as an intermediate (and you can save it for reuse later.)

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03-27-2003 08:11 PM

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Ah, too many pages open at once. I see that now. I was looking at DVD-R to have around just in case I ran into compatiblity issues (for that loan to my sister), and got disoriented. Yup, all the DVD+RW is 2.4x. Thanks.

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03-27-2003 08:12 PM

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Note that the 985 does NOT record DVD-R!

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03-27-2003 08:12 PM

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quote:
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It seems to me that if it's a standalone burner, it HAS to be 1x. Well, at least it has to record at 1x anyway. Can't record faster than realtime.

Actually, I wasn't certain of that. There are consumer tape decks that CAN record faster than realtime, when used for dubbing. But given that my TiVo is likely the source, yeah, realtime is the best I'm going to get.

Some days I'm just dense.

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03-27-2003 08:14 PM

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Ereth,

There are sites (and I'm sure someone knows them off the top of their head) that will let you check and see if a DVD player is compatible with a certain format.

You could check your sister's player and see if +R/+RW works for her. You might be able to just let her use the disks right from the burner.

Again, I don't know anything about standalone burners so I may be mistaken.

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03-27-2003 08:16 PM

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quote:
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Note that the 985 does NOT record DVD-R!

Yeah, I already have the Sony (still in the box, unopened). I was simply thinking ahead, on the off-chance that my sisters ancient DVD player won't play a DVD+RW or DVD+R then I could make a DVD-R instead on the Sony.

It's kind of a "covering my bases" thought process. Everything you've said makes perfect sense and I've no doubt I'll just use DVD+RW for most of my own stuff, but was thinking about what to do if I made a disk for her, or my parents, the kind of people who won't replace their DVD player until it completely fails, so probably have old ones (heck, I have a Panasonic A110 in my bedroom for that matter).

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03-27-2003 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by Bryanmc
Ereth,

There are sites (and I'm sure someone knows them off the top of their head) that will let you check and see if a DVD player is compatible with a certain format.

You could check your sister's player and see if +R/+RW works for her. You might be able to just let her use the disks right from the burner.

Again, I don't know anything about standalone burners so I may be mistaken.

According to www.dvdrhelp.com my own (bedroom) player (Panasonic A110) won't do either RW format, but will do both R formats. The Panasonic RP56, which I have in the living room will do all 4. I'll need to find out what my sister has, I don't know. Something inexpensive, I'm certain.

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03-27-2003 08:21 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Ereth
(heck, I have a Panasonic A110 in my bedroom for that matter).

That's my old reliable that I use for checking my disks!

She's a great unit.

Can't believe how much I paid for it....

quote:
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According to www.dvdrhelp.com my own (bedroom) player (Panasonic A110) won't do either RW format, but will do both R formats.

Huh. I'm almost positive that I've used my +RW disk in my A110.

I'll try tonight and see.

I've got an RP82 in the living room that plays everything.

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03-27-2003 08:28 PM

Ereth
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quote:
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I've got an RP82 in the living room that plays everything.

Between that and the 8 foot TV, just gotta have one better than anything I have, don't you? DON'T YOU?

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03-27-2003 08:34 PM

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Between that and the 8 foot TV, just gotta have one better than anything I have, don't you? DON'T YOU?

It's 9 feet thank you very much.

I've just got more to compensate for, I guess.

But while it's bigger than yours

, your DLP blows it out of the water with PQ. You've got me there.

However, I'm willing to bet my sound setup will be superior.

I'm pretty proud of it.

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03-27-2003 08:53 PM

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However, I'm willing to bet my sound setup will be superior. I'm pretty proud of it.

Yeah? I've got a new Pioneer VSX-49TX THX Ultra 2 on order, to replace my aging Kenwood KR-X1000 THX Receiver, though I'm keeping the 5 Infinity speakers I'm using.

And, can I get a job like yours that pays a bunch more so I can have bigger toys, too?

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03-27-2003 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by Ereth
Yeah? I've got a new Pioneer VSX-49TX THX Ultra 2 on order, to replace my aging Kenwood KR-X1000 THX Receiver, though I'm keeping the 5 Infinity speakers I'm using.

And, can I get a job like yours that pays a bunch more so I can have bigger toys, too?

Dang. None of the pics I've seen of your living room showed the audio stuff. At least that I noticed. I guess Ereth is better than me in everything.

And all of my toys were bought year before last when I did have the bucks rolling in.

Nowadays, not so much. Stick with what you've got.

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03-27-2003 09:01 PM

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Well, the KR-X1000 is about 8 years old, it was pretty nice when it was new (still is, really, but technology has pass it by. I have to have an external AC3/DTS decoder because those are newer technologies). The Pioneer isn't here yet. I was going to get the 47, because the 49 is just too expensive, but found it refurbed for barely more than the 47, so how could you say no?

The speakers are almost as old, but I like them, they sound good. (Oh, wait, 6. I forgot the SubWoofer is an Infinity, too).

And I'm not better than you in Halo.

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03-27-2003 09:04 PM

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quote:
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And I'm not better than you in Halo.

Until it comes out for the PC, that is....

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03-27-2003 09:08 PM

Ereth
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You'll appreciate this, Bryan. Years ago I went into Radio Shack looking for some cables, or something, I don't even remember what now. The sales drone starts trying to sell me some of their "Optimus" or whatever they were speakers, and I just looked at him and said "I have Infinitys". He kept going on and on and one of the more senior guys came over and touched him, said "He has Infinitys", and the first drone said "I don't know what that is", so the senior guy simply says "They are more advanced than anything we sell. Someone with those doesn't need your advice, just get him what he wants".

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03-27-2003 09:22 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Ereth
You'll appreciate this, Bryan. Years ago I went into Radio Shack looking for some cables, or something, I don't even remember what now. The sales drone starts trying to sell me some of their "Optimus" or whatever they were speakers, and I just looked at him and said "I have Infinitys". He kept going on and on and one of the more senior guys came over and touched him, said "He has Infinitys", and the first drone said "I don't know what that is", so the senior guy simply says "They are more advanced than anything we sell. Someone with those doesn't need your advice, just get him what he wants".

Ha! Great story. I am surprised that there was even one guy there who was in the know. Of course, you did say years ago...

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03-28-2003 04:47 AM

Ereth
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Ok, Bryan, just for you. In this pic, if you ignore the beautiful DLP television, you can see one of my Infinity RS 4b's to my right (wood grain, stands about 4 feet tall). To the left of the tv, standing vertically you can see my center channel, and the KR-X1000 is on the top of the entertainment center to the left.

Not that I'm bragging or anything. Lots of guys in the AVS forum have systems that blow mine away.

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03-28-2003 05:13 AM

Bryanmc
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Well, it's just about impossible to not look at the TV.

<drool>

Here are a few I just snapped. Don't tell my wife I posted pics of the living room messy. I'll be in big doo doo.

Here are the mains and front. When the TV is moved for the projector, the front gets set up on a stand right below the screen.

My rears are in corners. Not the best placement, but the best I could negotiate with my wife.

All the speakers are from the PSB Image line.

I've just got a simple Yamaha V620 pushing the speakers. That'd be the first thing to upgrade when I get the dough.

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03-28-2003 05:59 AM

Ereth
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Some day I'll get a digital camera and can do such things. You'd think a geek like me would have one already.

Something unusual about my system, I actually have full-fledge 3 ways for my rears, instead of "surround speakers". Infinity RS 4000s to be precise. Had them, figured why not use them?

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03-28-2003 11:54 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by stevel
Please note that for write-once formats, there isn't a heck of a lot of difference between -R and +R. It's the rewriteable formats where the differences show themselves.

Apart from the slightly lesser compatibility of the +R format, CDRecord in Linux currently does not support DVD+R/RW. If you're using Linux, you have to use DVD-R/RW.

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